Ron Paul's U.S. Senate candidate in '04: “I would not put my head in the oven if John Kerry is elected president"
By Wally EdgeRamapo College Professor Murray Sabrin may not be the best messenger for an attack on GOP U.S. Senate candidate Anne Evans Estabrook’s Republican credentials. In a statement released today, Sabrin accused Estabrook of “speaking out of both sides of her checkbook” by making past campaign contributions to Democratic candidates, including Bob Menendez for Congress, John Kerry for President, Linda Stender for State Assembly, and the New Jersey Democratic State Committee.
That’s an interesting message from Sabrin, the 1997 Libertarian candidate for Governor and the Chairman of Ron Paul’s New Jersey presidential campaign. In an October 2004 Op-Ed, Sabrin wrote that he refused to support George W. Bush for re-election, saying " a
second Bush term the welfare-warfare state would not be reduced. Therefore I cannot support a president who I thought would promote the limited government agenda I have been supporting and defending for more than three decades.”“I would not put my head in the oven if John Kerry is elected president on November 2nd,” Sabrin wrote.
Editor's note: After this item was posted, Dr. Sabrin issued the following statement -
“What is Anne’s excuse for donating thousands of dollars to Liberal Democrats running against Republicans in New Jersey? Why won’t she release the complete list of the ‘hundreds of thousands of dollars’ of donations to Republicans? I did not vote for Senator John Kerry for President and I did not give Senator John Kerry any donations. Anne Estabrook cannot make the same statement.”
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He's the ONLY messenger
Hey Wally:
I've been to CPAC conferences where its members ignored and ostracized George Bush's representatives attending the conference. At one conference, a group of middle-aged men checking in in front of me noticed a George Bush literature table. These guys all looked at each other with looks of either confusion or amazement. One guy said to the other, "what's Bush doing here? He's not a conservative!" The other guys all laughed and nodded . . . and they all walked right past the Bush literature table.
George W. Bush is not even a RINO . . . he's worse . . . he's a neocon, As we all know, neocons are reconstituted Trotskyists; in other words, they're leftists and big-government advocates.
Sabrin has been an advocate of limited government and constitutionalism for his entire political life. Most of that time, he has been an active and respected member of the conservative wing of the Republican Party. And, unlike Estabrook, there is no record that Sabrin has ever voted for a liberal or a Democrat, or has he ever actively supported or donated money to any liberal Democrat.
Dr. Sabrin did not say he would put his head in an oven if George Bush was elected, either. He simply made the point that if Kerry was elected, it wouldn't be a monumental tragedy . . . or enough of a tragedy to take his own life in any event.
I'm a registered Republican and limited government constitutionalist as well. I had the same feeling about the '04 election as Dr. Sabrin had. I ended up not voting for POTUS that year. Virtually every limited government constitutionalist I know either sat that one out or voted for a third-party candidate. They hated Kerry, to be sure, but could not, in good conscience support Bush . . . a man who clearly despised limited government and constitutionalism.
So what's the big deal?
Wally Edge, what is your point?
I am not sure I get it. Could somebody explain it to me?
TheBullhorn Makes Sense
Excellent points made by TheBullhorn. I would hardly consider making this statement, (If even said in this context), equal to donating money to the likes of Bob Menendez, ($1000), AND John Kerry, ($1000), not to mention the $500 to the Democrat State Committee here in NJ.
As I humbly point out here, in this YouTube "commercial" that has received over 1500 views in LESS than 2 days, Anne "Dollars for Democrats" Estabrook may be a good friend to Democrats, but she is a bad choice for Conservatives and Republicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN89X-7Jpus
We need more Senator's like Tom Coburn, Jeff Sessions, Jim DeMint and John Cornyn, that's what Murray Sabrin would bring us.
Estabrook would be a Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter, Susan Collins RINO.
hypocrite
Sounds like Mr, Sabrin has a hypocrisy problem. And its not the first time.
Are you serious?
So Murray Sabrin was upset at George W. Bush's huge spending, and opposed him on the grounds that he wasn't conservative enough, and we are to believe that that's the same thing as donating to Democrats? Is this a joke?
So...
Murray Sabrin said he "would not put my head in the oven if John Kerry [were] elected president," to you that's hypocrtitical. I suppose that the correct Republican thing to say would have been that he *would* put his head in the oven and kill himself if a Democrat won the presidency?
Absurd
It is absurd to compare donating to Democrats to refusing to support Bush because he was not conservative enough. The fact is that Sabrin has a principled set of positions and is not willing to kowtow to the neoconservative wing of the GOP. Does this mean that he is a Democrat? Absolutely not. It means that he is the only true Republican running.